[Audio] Why could you not turn your own brother to these ideas? Why did he go into acting instead?
Jacque Fresco: Because I wasn't skilled enough to reach him. In those days, you know that we're talking about forty--fifty--sixty years ago, I was not able to reach him I really tried I could not reach him at the time I was not as skilled.
Roxanne Meadows: You were the younger brother too. How much older was him to you?
Jacque Fresco: About five--six years older.
Jacque Fresco: About five--six years older.