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Showing posts with label Again. Show all posts
Sunday, August 9, 2020
Thursday, July 23, 2020
Peter Joseph wants to embrace philosophy again
Ever noticed we have no philosophers anymore?
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) July 23, 2020
You look back to antiquity... Socrates, Plato; litany of folks in that tradition... jumping ahead to the 1960s with Alan Watts, Krishnamurti, etc? Say what you will about any of those minds- Today we only have comedians
Its kinda sad.
Thursday, April 9, 2020
Tuesday, January 21, 2020
Peter Joseph goes after Greta Thunberg
I have already grown bored with Greta. She needs an economic education to see what must be addressed in technical terms. Age is no excuse. She needs to repeat the following phrase before she becomes fully corrupted by fame:— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) January 21, 2020
"The economic system is the problem. We must change it." https://t.co/qyP9WLaNoY
Peter. Your criticism is both weak and unnecessary. Of course climate change response will ultimately depend on structural change. But to pick on a young person loudly calling out the simple lack of awareness on climate change is petty.— Jahner Ken Johnson (@JahnerKJohnson) January 21, 2020
I was a fan of yours... until you decided to vent your frustration on a teenage girl who is crying into the darkness that she and her generation will suffer the environmental pain leashed by our generation.— Jahner Ken Johnson (@JahnerKJohnson) January 22, 2020
Learn to read— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) January 22, 2020
Wow! I never thought I would see the day Peter Joseph would scoop as low as the far-right climate change deniers in attacking a 16-year-old. Okay Peter, what do you propose, but more importantly, what HAVE you done before calling out a 16 year old?— rj2020 (@rj20207) January 21, 2020
No, we and our elected representatives are the ones with no excuse.— Ultimum Romanus (@Ultimum_Romanus) January 21, 2020
From day 1 her only message has been "listen to scientists". That's it, the rest of the details shouldn't have to land in the lap of a 16 year old girl. Sorry Peter but you're out of line here
That's an absurd, and baseless claim. And completely in line with the reasoning of science denialists, who use that reasoning as though it discredits the conclusion of anthropogenic climate change completely.shame on you for perpetuating anti intellectualist narratives.— Ultimum Romanus (@Ultimum_Romanus) January 21, 2020
we agree on more things than we disagree. But if I think you're wrong on something, I'm at least willing to let u explain it better. U don't have to defend your assertions we don't agree on if u don't want. But that just tells me you expect me to accept what you say at face value— Ultimum Romanus (@Ultimum_Romanus) January 21, 2020
I must politely disagree. She's expressing the anger of a generation that will have no future. That burden does not rest on her shoulders alone Those of us who are a little older must join our voices with her.— Peter Bigioni (@pBiggZz) January 21, 2020
Nonviolent mass demonstration like standing rock? At least that's what Chris Hedges suggests we need on a massive scale. I don't say this as some left wing veteran I'm just a dude who reads and votes.— Peter Bigioni (@pBiggZz) January 21, 2020
I am vegan. What's your arrogance?— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) January 21, 2020
Basic Goal of Society = (Well-being of suffering creatures and sustainability)https://t.co/INZLSdKdl1— Zeitgeist Movement (@tzmglobal) March 1, 2020
Perhaps, but I haven't resorted to Marianne Williamson bjs yet. Embarrassing shameless self advertising— nowaytommy (@nowaytommy) January 21, 2020
Joeseph does indeed seem enamored by his own effulgence :)— nowaytommy (@nowaytommy) January 21, 2020
Maybe from the same kind of place people who declare they have grown bored with 16 year old activists come from? No actually I think you're the only one on this thread to live under that particular troll bridge.— Lefty leprechaun (@krishblake89) January 21, 2020
"decrying that the entire system is broken betrays a pathological tendency toward the arrogance of the Intellect in building utopia from scratch"— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) January 22, 2020
Thats stupid.
& if you understand the thesis as to why the F. market cant work, then you see no changes are relevant
I can assure you time will prove you wrong— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) January 23, 2020
Greta Thunberg is currently a symbol that rich, elite, pro-establishment people invite into their circles to make it seem like they care. She is being used as a pawn to green-wash.— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) January 21, 2020
This has nothing to do with her intent and good spirit.
She's so much not the problem that this doesn't seem necessary.— Eli Bloom (@eliblooms) January 21, 2020
Peter she literally has said "all you can talk about is money and fairy tales of eternal economic growth, HOW DARE YOU" She's highlighted the economic problem. Just because she hasn't said resource based economy doesn't mean she's a pawn. Don't alienate people from ur cause.— James Prempeh (@buddyjj95) January 22, 2020
And to think I used to have time for you.— Silent King (@iamsilentking) January 21, 2020
And who’s going to help her, you?— Dalton Russell (@DaltonRussell11) January 21, 2020
Peter you are starting to sound like a grumpy old man— G Pixi (@pixies2101) January 21, 2020
So this guy, who I once admired, just blocked me bc I he was talking shit about Greta Thunberg. He said some shit about fame going to her head, & said the same thing about AOC awhile back. I asked if he was equally susceptible to fame and if he'd ever consider working w Greta. pic.twitter.com/YXmaBOHS67— WelcomeToTheMachine (@radicalberns) February 2, 2020
My catchphrase of the millennium:— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) March 27, 2020
>What did you expect?<
Outrage is good. It’s also pointless.
The values and loyalties of our social system will always resolve in support of the upper class.
pic.twitter.com/yy8TMRvrdV
Can't find the logic in this— IceMan (@AdamKostovski) March 8, 2020
The greatest intellectual failure of modern times is peoples’ ability to think systemically— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) March 8, 2020
I don’t see how. They can do whatever they want to now days.— Desean (@brandonsaidd) March 8, 2020
Why? No offense to her. But she is a child prop at this point
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) November 6, 2021
Wednesday, October 23, 2019
Peter Joseph is voting for Bernie Sanders
Personal note:— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) October 24, 2019
I'm very, very tired of people, year after year, election after election, failure after failure- thinking the presidency; the congress; or the political system at large- globally- is a viable tool.
The world is run by BUSINESS POWER. And it's immune to politics.
I will continue to promote change. Actual change. Will I vote for Bernie? Of course. Do I think it is a legitimate political action in the wake of the forces that be? Absolutely not— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) October 20, 2019
Wow, "Zeitgeist Movement" twitter just totally debunked its self and promoted some shady/dumb characters— K Fisch 👑 🕸 ₿ (@HODL_KING) March 15, 2019
How billionaires are battling capitalism's critics— Zeitgeist Movement (@tzmglobal) April 29, 2019
This article asks, 'How do I solve #StructuralInequality in America?'
The endless pursuit of monetary wealth impoverishes all of our lives and our beautiful planet. Only #Sharing can shift the Zeitgeist.https://t.co/mkq6l7WgSn
As much as I despise the political system, the fact that one candidate would have a YouTube video titled “Bernie Sanders interviews punks“ - stunningly weird - deserves my pointless vote.https://t.co/0KwY1PhVMt— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) February 8, 2020
No such thing as a "socialist". "Capitalist"? Yes. Because the system we live in (market-based economy) can be modelled and observed over time. This has never applied to "socialism" because there's no model. Only a value system disliking capitalist aspectshttps://t.co/5vEsMJHrx4— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) February 14, 2020
As a matter of principle and tempered tolerance, if Bernie is robbed again - people should likely just burn the convention center to the ground. #FeelTheBern https://t.co/PZA8Gd6Dov pic.twitter.com/RqwJONPWOx— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) February 14, 2020
Years ago when TZM generated lots of buzz, the main tactic was to attack random people‘s behavior/talk to some random person who is alienated and attributed any derisiveness to the organization at large.— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) February 17, 2020
Next they will be calling the Sanders camp a cult; Sanders a cult leader. https://t.co/jVK74tSTsL
"You cannot change a corrupt system by taking its money."— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) February 16, 2020
From a different angle, this applies to EVERYTHING.
Which is why the #activistindustrialcomplex continues to run in place. The prison we live is the economic system.
It hold everyone's lives and psychology by the balls. https://t.co/ZdSbDDMLQQ
Ladies and gentlemen:— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) February 8, 2020
The most dangerous value system disorder of human kind. https://t.co/XQ98Nqq61i
🍿 ready.— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) February 23, 2020
The tension mounts. I can’t wait to see what comes out of the woodwork over the next few months purely from a spectator standpoint.
Sander’s overall symbolism is going to be met fiercely by the status quo.https://t.co/UYEmeMoNne
Support what? You must be on the wrong channel.— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) February 24, 2020
Banana/Anarchy. How?— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) February 24, 2020
He admits he is. Everything he stands for is communism...— KJP (@KJPCGY) February 24, 2020
I know, the system is full of communists, most of them are covert, Bernie is overtly pushing for Soviet Russia in the US.
Us capitalist freaks? The philosophy evolved out of western Europe, people got tired of serving the ruling class, the philosophy of individuals rights grew in to free market capitalism, the result was massive wealth creation, rapid increase in standard of living for the masses.— KJP (@KJPCGY) February 24, 2020
You'll need to provide your definition of "capitalist", there's no way any country today is predominantly capitalist, all countries have private central banks, high income taxes, 100s of other taxes if not thousands, government intimately involved in all sectors of the economy...— KJP (@KJPCGY) February 24, 2020
Stop lying bud. I've studied history and economics, I lived in Denmark for two years, it's shit. I live in a socialist welfare state now, Canada, it's shit as well. Anyone with a brain knows where it goes when individuals lose their rights to the state.— KJP (@KJPCGY) February 24, 2020
I worry about this as well...— Renee Cunningham (@laemilyrenee) February 23, 2020
CIA gonna CIA— Dominique J-B (@qcdjb) February 23, 2020
Classic example of passive western propaganda. The phrase “leftist regimes”, stated as if that’s just the way we refer to anything that isn’t more capitalistically slanted https://t.co/giJjCsKFow— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) February 25, 2020
Nothing will change until the social structure does.— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) February 27, 2020
The US's global rank mirrors the psychology of monopoly business in the domestic hierarchy. Hence the same psychopathy has control.
And no one should be surprised if they do steal it from Bernie. That is the natural course. https://t.co/p7vqxXs4Il
Sentiment summary:— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) March 4, 2020
Vote for Trump= Let's continue burning this thing down quickly.
Vote for Sanders= Let's try to make changes; help reverse some of the damage, at least.
Vote for a "Centrist"= Again, let's continue burning this thing down, albeit more slowly than via Trump.
I vote for Bernie as I wish to see short term suffering stop— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) March 4, 2020
Sentiment summary:— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) March 4, 2020
Vote for Trump= Let's continue burning this thing down quickly.
Vote for Sanders= Let's try to make changes; help reverse some of the damage, at least.
Vote for a "Centrist"= Again, let's continue burning this thing down, albeit more slowly than via Trump.
The old freemarket delusion of "Earning". On the surface it seems like a viable claim as it is a notorious half-truth.— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) March 9, 2020
The market is not God, selling life support to those who mow his lawn. It is a man-made, slanted GAME where people today work very hard & are STILL in poverty. https://t.co/OKfc4rpfV3
Joe turns on a dime looking to "strength" rather than policy. He also just told his huge audience, tacitly, that Sanders doesn't have a chance when Bernie still could win, especially now with #COVID2019 realizations.— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) April 4, 2020
Gross, ignorant stuff.
And Biden would just be a Clinton admin. https://t.co/pBMQWvJLXB
Darn the fake radical who supports every war dropped out. What an outrage— Progress Hawk (@progresshawk) April 8, 2020
I don't recall you strongly advocating that all of your TZM followers work for Bernie, but perhaps you did and I missed it.— Daniel Pinchbeck (@DanielPinchbeck) April 9, 2020
Unfortunately, it's going to have to collapse, before any real Change happens. I just hope the species survives.— Alexander Supertramp (@indievoter123) April 13, 2020
You can’t have it both ways Peter. Total and fully are synonymous.— bluesoul (@MmckelvA) April 14, 2020
Either we will suffer “total ecological/social colapse in time” or “it will never fully colapse”. Which is it?
Saturday, September 21, 2019
Peter Joseph "sneaks" behind the ego again again
True up to a point? However, what do you suggest should be used to change human thoughts and behaviors so they can become open to new ideas?— Simon Cicak (@Empathy_Center) April 26, 2020
You know Peter, many of us want to create the better world you've enlightened us to. Sadly movements need leaders and structure. Just bitching about the status quo, without offering an alternative isn't exactly helpful.#StepUpOrShutUp #TZM— David Zan (@Zancett) April 26, 2020
Friday, August 2, 2019
Here comes the Thrive Movement again
Merola dropped the ball, I guess Thrive saw a chance to take his few remaining cult members away from him. 😅— Justin Templer (@JustinTemplerSr) February 17, 2020
Thrive was saying Thrive I was soooo successful they announced they were going to release a Thrive II movie. 🤡— Justin Templer (@JustinTemplerSr) February 17, 2020
— The Goodest Jim Jesus 🤘🏴💰🍕 (@JimJesus) February 17, 2020
Monday, December 31, 2018
Sunday, December 30, 2018
The Zeitgeist Movement gets compared to Scientology
"Much of the footage was taken from Alex Jones" 😂😂
— Dave Folksman (@tarkonis) January 6, 2019
Delusional Zeitard defends Scientology
https://t.co/sUIvrnoHX1https://t.co/upe8iUc2LVhttps://t.co/tbEu6G4DJM
— your #1 source for absurdist true crime 🐍👑 🌷 (@davidgerard) December 30, 2018
that's literally the entire answer
you mean, people who attempt to edit the encyclopedia according to its most fundamental rules?
— your #1 source for absurdist true crime 🐍👑 🌷 (@davidgerard) December 30, 2018
talk page is here: https://t.co/7fyH7Uch8z
— your #1 source for absurdist true crime 🐍👑 🌷 (@davidgerard) December 30, 2018
this is the place to exercise your detailed understanding of what Wikipedia is and isn't for
...there's still a "movement"? it's been over a decade, hasn't it?
— KMFDNFT (@SamFateKeeper) December 31, 2018
genuinely shocked that there was still a wikipedia page with terrible sources for fucking Zeitgeist in 2018
— KMFDNFT (@SamFateKeeper) December 31, 2018
but then, my roommate a few years back in grad school at one point was recommending the film to people so idk I guess it has an allure
don't tell them about the other wiki
— Spacebat 🦇 (@MC_Spacebat) December 31, 2018
lol
— your #1 source for absurdist true crime 🐍👑 🌷 (@davidgerard) December 31, 2018
the articles there are actually not very good at all, there needs to be a merge of about four lumps of rambling
if you could imagine the ineptness of scientologists, and cross it with the ineptness of bitcoiners,
— your #1 source for absurdist true crime 🐍👑 🌷 (@davidgerard) December 31, 2018
...there's still a "movement"? it's been over a decade, hasn't it?
— KMFDNFT (@SamFateKeeper) December 31, 2018
Money is the root of evil, according to the Book of Timothy in the New Testament; burning it will heal the planet, argues the intriguing documentary “Zeitgeist: Moving Forward.” This is the third in a series of “Zeitgeist” films for director-producer-writer-cinematographer-composer-editor and narrator Peter Joseph, who goes only by his first and middle names. In this installment, he attacks the international monetary system and promotes a sustainable utopia.
Peter Joseph opened his earlier “Zeitgeist: The Movie” (2007) and “Zeitgeist: Addendum” (2008) with lines from Tibetan and Indian philosophers, respectively. Austrian communist Ernest Fischer, author of The Necessity of Art: A Marxist Approach, supplies the epigraph for “Zeitgeist: Moving Forward”: “Art must show the world as changeable. And help to change it.”
After circuituous discussions of human genetics, violence, addiction, currency, inflation and oil, the lengthy film gets around to changing the world using “the scientific method applied to human concerns.”
Social engineer and industrial designer Jacque Fresco plugs his Venus Project, in which he envisions a “cybernated society” of circular cities where “computers could replace the outmoded system of electing politicians.” Satellite-steered, collectively owned cars will eliminate traffic fatalities, he forecasts.
Peter Joseph’s most imaginative leap comes at the end when he dramatizes a scenario for peaceful revolt: citizens of Earth see the light and toss all their cash into fires outside banks. Although the first two “Zeitgeist” films spawned a grass-roots movement (the Illinois chapter is hosting the Chicago screenings) this tactic is not prescribed for offscreen activists.
At times, Peter Jospeh skirts with esoterica. Never as kooky as “visionaries” Lyndon LaRouche and L. Ron Hubbard, he nonetheless partakes in science worship, sci-fi mind-slavery metaphors, and a global banking obsessions. His films draw upon such disparate books as The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold, The Cancer Stage of Capitalism, The Coming Oil Crisis and Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.
Economists, including the late University of Chicago seer Milton Friedman, are the big bad guys here. Their theories are based on the lie of “infinite resources.” The provocative “Zeitgeist: Moving Forward” advocates instead a “resource-based” society, rescaled under the “dictatorship” of nature.
The Zeitgeist Movement
 | |
| Abbreviation | TZM |
|---|---|
| Formation | 2008 |
| Type | Advocacy group |
Region served
| International |
Key people
| Peter Joseph |
| Website | TheZeitgeistMovement.com |
The Zeitgeist Movement is an activist movement established in the United States in 2008 by Peter Joseph.
An article in the Journal of Contemporary Religion describes the movement as an example of a "conspirituality", a synthesis of New Age spirituality and conspiracy theory.[1]
The group is critical of market capitalism, describing it as structurally corrupt and wasteful of resources. According to The Daily Telegraph, the group dismisses historic religious concepts as misleading, and embraces sustainable ecology and scientific administration of society.[2][3][4][5]
Michelle Goldberg of Tablet Magazine called the movement "the world's first Internet-based apocalyptic cult, with members who parrot the party line with cheerful, rote fidelity."[6] In her opinion, the movement is "devoted to a kind of sci-fi planetary communism", and the 2007 documentary that "sparked" the movement was "steeped in far-right, isolationist, and covertly anti-Semitic conspiracy theories."[6]
Alan Feuer of The New York Times said the movement was like "a utopian presentation of a money-free and computer-driven vision of the future, a wholesale reimagination of civilization, as if Karl Marx and Carl Sagan had hired John Lennon from his "Imagine" days to do no less than redesign the underlying structures of planetary life."[7]
The Zeitgeist Movement was formed in 2008 by Joseph shortly after the late 2008 release of Zeitgeist: Addendum, the second film in the Zeitgeist film series.[8][9]
Zeitgeist was first linked to the Venus Project. In April 2011, partnership between the two groups ended in an apparent power struggle, with Joseph commenting, "Without [the Zeitgeist Movement], [the Venus Project] doesn’t exist – it has nothing but ideas and has no viable method to bring it to light."[8]
The first Zeitgeist documentary which predates the organization Zeitgeist movement, borrowed from the works of Eustace Mullins, Lyndon LaRouche, and radio host Alex Jones.[6] Much of its footage was taken directly from Alex Jones documentaries.[6]
VC Reporter's Shane Cohn summarized the movement's charter as: "Our greatest social problems are the direct results of our economic system".[10]
The group holds an annual event, Z-Day (or Zeitgeist Day), an "educational forum" held in March. The New York Times reported on the second Z-Day held at Manhattan Community College in New York in 2009 which included lectures by Peter Joseph and Jacque Fresco.[7] This event sold out with 900 people paying $10 each to attend. The event's organizers said that 450 connected events in 70 countries around the globe also took place.[7]
See also
References
- ^ Ward, Charlotte; Voas, David (2011). "The Emergence of Conspirituality". Journal of Contemporary Religion. 26 (1): 109–111. doi:10.1080/13537903.2011.539846.
- ^ McElroy, Danien. June 17, 2012. Forest boy 'inspired by Zeitgeist movement'. The Telegraph. Retrieved November 14, 2018.
- ^ Resnick, Jan (February 25, 2009). "The Zeitgeist Movement". Psychotherapy in Australia. 15 (2). ISSN 1323-0921.
- ^ Quotations and citations in this Wikipedia article are based on the translation from Hebrew to English of The Filmmaker Who Helped Recruit Millions for the Global Protests of the Bottom 99%, original Hebrew article by Asher Schechter, TheMarker (Israel), January 19, 2012.
- ^ Quotations and citations in this Wikipedia article are based on the translation from Hebrew to English of Imagine, original Hebrew article by Tzaela Kotler, Globes (Israel), March 18, 2010.
- ^ a b c d Goldberg, Michelle (February 2, 2011). "Brave New World". Tablet. Retrieved November 14, 2018.
- ^ a b c Feuer, Alan (March 17, 2009). "They've Seen the Future and Dislike the Present". The New York Times. Retrieved November 14,2018.
- ^ a b Gore, Jeff (October 12, 2011). "The view from Venus Jacque Fresco designed a society without politics, poverty and war. Will it ever leave the drawing board?". Orlando Weekly. Retrieved September 17, 2015.
- ^ Cohn, Shane. "New world re-order". VCReporter. Retrieved May 28, 2015.
- ^ Cohn, Shane (May 12, 2011). "New world re-order". VCReporter. Retrieved November 14, 2018.
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