the social atmosphere movement - an open source version of TZM, a response to Gentle Machine productions's copyright strikes.
by u/hatespeech01 in TZM
the social atmosphere movement - an open source version of TZM, a response to Gentle Machine productions's copyright strikes.
by u/hatespeech01 in TZM
I will find out and get back to you..
— The Venus Project (@TheVenusProject) September 29, 2022
(Peter tvp volunteer)
there has been no flooding in any of the buildings at the center and its residents are safe. The only damage to mention was to one of the structure's 15-foot aluminum awnings. Due to its remote location,
— The Venus Project (@TheVenusProject) October 5, 2022
Venus is generally the last area to be brought back online regarding electricity reconnection.
— The Venus Project (@TheVenusProject) October 5, 2022
Thanks for everyone's support and we look forward to getting back on track as soon as possible.https://t.co/Bfc8acPd3u
Beyond Politics, Poverty and War
Thanks for your opinion.
— The Venus Project (@TheVenusProject) October 5, 2022
From what I understand the cost of installing solar at the Venus Research Centre is very significant. Also much of the regenerated area would have to be cleared in order to utilise an efficient solar system.
(Peter tvp volunteer)
I agree. TVP center's incompetence is showing itself more and more. Sad. They should have installed solar panels, solar heaters and wind power generators etc long long time ago, but they have only excuses.
— Kristo Poljakov (@PoljakovKristo) October 5, 2022
Old story, old excuses bro. All of those things should have been done with the help of crowdfunding, and it still can be done and should be done, considering you guys won't move away from that place of Florida any soon and so the same old problems will repeat...
— Kristo Poljakov (@PoljakovKristo) October 5, 2022
Ask yourself,
— anna brodsky ☮ (@spac3_flow3r) June 27, 2022
Is making films and lectures advocating sustainable resource management
A) communism, or
B) the same as ruling uteruses the property of the state?
Is advocating emotional abuse in *delightfully amusing gesture* towards one group the same as inviting it on oneself?
Regarding the difference between the RBE model and Communism? You tell me: How are they different in practice? How are they really even different in theory?
— 🍴 (@MetalAsFork) June 27, 2022
Lectures and advocacy both aim for eventual systemic revolution, no? What does that look like?
Distinction without a difference. It's a Trojan horse for the same old collectivist dystopian ideas. I say this as someone that was very gung ho for the Venus Project, and followed PJ for like 15 years now.
— 🍴 (@MetalAsFork) June 27, 2022
An "equality-oriented resource economy" sounds absolutely horrible.
I don't have to stretch to assume very much. "Visceral militant reaction..." doesn't leave a whole lot of wiggle room for what's being suggested. Nor does "not letting them go out in public...".
— 🍴 (@MetalAsFork) June 27, 2022
Endorsement is escalation.
The fact is a lot of people, myself included as you know, are triggered by that word because of how much it has been used to bully and condescend, so plenty of people choose not to use it out of the kindness of their hearts 🤍 Like you said you would do, actually 🌸
— shh. (@spac3_flow3r) December 8, 2021
Plus, note the difference of "retard" used as a verb and "retarded" used as an adjective. pic.twitter.com/1oMEaGiF5Q
— shh. (@spac3_flow3r) December 8, 2021
Reading your tweet was.
— X on Earth (@XonEarth) October 13, 2021
So, that means that you know how to do everything right. Congratulations messiah. Go save yourself in your communist paradise and let me die as I will.
— Adán Bermúdez (@AdnBermdezLoza1) October 13, 2021
If loving you is wrong, I don't wanna be right
— Central Scrutinizer (@JulianLobato) October 13, 2021
Including watching Zeitgeist?
— Raúl (@raulcg) October 13, 2021
That’s pretty negative bro
— MG (@Malcolm13710083) October 13, 2021
self project much?
— 🦅Corbin Bitcoin Keegan🦂 (@KeeganCorbin) October 13, 2021
What’s the point of this quote?
— william fitzgibbons (@williamfitzgi17) October 13, 2021
no, just intellectually on pause
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) October 13, 2021
bitcoin?
— ‘24 Halving Is Not Priced In ∞/21M (@GREGBEN15) October 13, 2021
no... wrong means things collapse and you die
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) October 13, 2021
Nihilism much?
— Big Doge 💎 (@BigDoggge) October 13, 2021
Yes, stay home and collaboratively design total system change.
— NotFunny (@BitcoinIsHope) November 7, 2021
Makes sense. The podcast team is discussing it and will rebrand it.
— Zeitgeist Movement (@tzmglobal) September 2, 2021
Wasn’t it supposed to be a group of independent thinkers wanting to work together to promote the work and try and make the world better?
— Renee Cunningham (@laemilyrenee) September 12, 2021
Symbols are important to express shared goals and values. If you don't believe in them, stop writting.
— AdvertisetheGiftEconomy (@tombezauciel) September 12, 2021
Yes. I think it’s funny you think Peter isn’t being supportive. The way these people have advertised is incorrect. They are part of TZM- they do not speak for all of TZM.
— Renee Cunningham (@laemilyrenee) September 13, 2021
Again, Peter, do you really want us to stop using the TZM and name so that the movement dies?
— AdvertisetheGiftEconomy (@tombezauciel) September 13, 2021
More people don't nees leaders but understand that someone has to organize and catalize activity. Good followers are also leaders when such organizing is needed.
— AdvertisetheGiftEconomy (@tombezauciel) September 13, 2021
Organizing is absolutely essential in any movement. Yes.
— Brandon Gallagher (@Brandon03469362) September 13, 2021
Your ignorance when it comes to social movements is tragic.
— AdvertisetheGiftEconomy (@tombezauciel) September 13, 2021
I understand you don't want to be dragged into drama and complications of large social movements. We respect that and love you for all you have done and still do. But do it right, step down properly and fully and let us carry the torch now.
— AdvertisetheGiftEconomy (@tombezauciel) September 13, 2021
No, Peter doesn't want us to use the logo or name for anything other than Zdays. How then are we supposed to be a movement? Visibility is necessary and that isn't possible without using the name and logo.
— AdvertisetheGiftEconomy (@tombezauciel) September 14, 2021
Peter doesn't let anyone use the TZM logo or name other than to organize Zdays. How are we supposed to raise awareness about us and invite people to our meetings if we can't speak our name?
— AdvertisetheGiftEconomy (@tombezauciel) September 14, 2021
We are creating splitoffs also. But TZM is an umbrella of values and goals that brings us together. If we can't use it keeps us apart.
— AdvertisetheGiftEconomy (@tombezauciel) September 16, 2021
Millions of people know and support TZM, creating something new is starting from scratch. Who has the communicative power of those films?
— AdvertisetheGiftEconomy (@tombezauciel) September 16, 2021
Let TZM free. No official TZM, that was a psyop trap in the firsr place. Social movements are simpler than that. The principals are stated and the symbols are released free to use to represent those principals.
— AdvertisetheGiftEconomy (@tombezauciel) September 13, 2021
If you used the name and logo that would one thing, but you don't!!! Free it up. Let it fly.
— AdvertisetheGiftEconomy (@tombezauciel) September 14, 2021
He doesn't let us use the logo and name. How are we supposed to speak about ourselves to rally support, to invite others to meeting, to represent our principals and goals if we can't use the logo or name?
— AdvertisetheGiftEconomy (@tombezauciel) September 14, 2021
Well he told us angrily to remove the logo and name from a podcastbwe just started. And publicly scolded us. Sure, after trying to resolve it I now say: disobey, he openly sais he isn't our leader anyway. But most TZMers are much more obediant than I am.
— AdvertisetheGiftEconomy (@tombezauciel) September 16, 2021
Specifically: the only people holding international OPEN TZM meetings for the past 3 years, inviting others, bringing chapters together, organizing and growing a community, have started a podcast. Peter doesn't allow us to use the TZM logo or name anywhere for the podcast.
— AdvertisetheGiftEconomy (@tombezauciel) September 15, 2021
Peter should just write a simple and clear list of principals that define TZM (not a book) and let people use the term and logo to represent adherence to those principals. Will some people misuse it or misunderstand or smear TZM, sure, just as is done with every other author.
— AdvertisetheGiftEconomy (@tombezauciel) September 16, 2021