Real shame you two couldn’t do more together.— Stephen Camp (@SteveCampF1) April 25, 2020
That’s a shame to hear. I remain supportive of you both as I feel TZM can be the methodology and mantra we use as a way to move humanity on and TVP shows us what is technically possible.— Stephen Camp (@SteveCampF1) April 25, 2020
I can’t wait for Interreflections.
The invention of the internet (the only way your films could have been shared to a large audience) is evidence catastrophe isn't the only cause of change.— Andrew Wiebusch (@acwiebusch) April 26, 2020
That isn't social change in any real way.— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) April 26, 2020
That makes no sense at all. Apples to bowling balls— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) April 25, 2020
Vaccines are, likely, why you and I are alive. That's a very significant social change. Did it change everything? No. It doesn't have to do that to meet the goal of discrediting your claim.— Andrew Wiebusch (@acwiebusch) April 26, 2020
Catastrophe isn't the only cause for social change. The Vaccine (invention) is a cause.
No. You misunderstand the notion of change, confusing it will additional advents. Additional advents that modulate society are not change.— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) April 26, 2020
Jesus christ.... You just want to argue and waste time?— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) April 26, 2020
Vaccines have never created SOCIAL CHANGE by any sociological definition of what SOCIAL CHANGE means politically - morally, etc
No, that's insane to think vaccines haven't made social change.— Andrew Wiebusch (@acwiebusch) April 27, 2020
Just because it didn't make all of the social changes you would like to see, doesn't mean it made no change.
Define change, asshole.
haha. why dont you finally fuck off, Mr. Wizard. Enjoy your "science".— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) April 27, 2020
Good luck with your pseudo-science and shit arguments.— Andrew Wiebusch (@acwiebusch) April 27, 2020
Tell us all about your extensive knowledge of astrophysics. I'll wait.— Andrew Wiebusch (@acwiebusch) April 27, 2020
Now he shuts up because he knows he fucked up.— Andrew Wiebusch (@acwiebusch) April 27, 2020
Try me and my scientific knowledge. I'll show you the door, Pete.
Didn't he use ro promote the Venus project, which is basically a commumist system run by a central AI (reminiscent of those horrendous dystopian Smart Cities the UN is proposing. Muuuuhhhh "Resource-based economy".
— AR (@ad1ra12) August 14, 2020
I abandoned the Venus project as an institution once I realized they wanted everything to be centric to themselves. they also never had a plan and still don’t.
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) October 8, 2020
I support a train of thought with no figure heads, gurus or personalities. It’s more productive that way and effective. The Venus project is a transient body of work that others digest and build upon - as fresco did
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) November 28, 2021
What does not add up to me is that this goes a bit against the philosophy that "we are all one" and that only together can we make the changes necessary for the advancement of humanity. I fear that little by little these movements will end up being similar to political parties...
— Luis C. Fernandez P. (@LuisCaonaboF) November 28, 2021
