I disagree in detail. What many of these post-scarcity groups who support automation, etc (ie The Venus Project) is that there is no "final stage" of automation/abundance production. There will always be gaps. Hence, the change has to be structure in incentive, shifting values.
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) March 23, 2020
No one does things “with” the Venus project.
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) April 25, 2020
I’m unaware of TVP “tenants”. It’s just a train of thought of how to organize with the focus on sustainability and public health. Everything points in the same direction. A non-market economy.
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) June 1, 2020
This is from my book. #thenewhumanrightsmovement pic.twitter.com/TKEQtunBrZ
TVP really doesn't express any true specifics, sadly. That is one of their major problems and why I disbanded. They have always been vague as hell.
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) August 20, 2020
I abandoned the Venus project as an institution once I realized they wanted everything to be centric to themselves. they also never had a plan and still don’t.
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) October 8, 2020
You might want to review the podcast. And yes TVP never organized the argument properly, hence the drive to call it utopian
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) November 26, 2020
TVP never really looked at scarcity the right way. They still tend to over emphasize existing abundance which confuses the conversation as we can't understand the nature of potential abundance without first diagnosing how the system preserves and exploit scarcity.
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) December 9, 2020
TVP spam. nice
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) January 5, 2021
So in other words you gave up on it without knowing if it will work and actually trying it out in an experiment. I think without trying it out that that's a disservice in itself. Which is why I'll see to it to the end.
— platonis Aphsis (@PlatonisAphsis) January 5, 2021
TVP also never had a plan or applicable design that wasn't abstracted. Hence, a deeper communication problem.
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) June 24, 2021
This reminded me of activists- and why they are largely ineffective.
— Renee Cunningham (@laemilyrenee) June 23, 2021
How can we work for a better future if we don't have a shared vision of what that looks like?
Thousands of individual and conflicting visions won't get us there.
And most people can't or won't even go there.
TVP also never had a plan or applicable design that wasn't abstracted. Hence, a deeper communication problem.
— Peter Joseph (@ZeitgeistFilm) June 24, 2021
