True up to a point? However, what do you suggest should be used to change human thoughts and behaviors so they can become open to new ideas?— Simon Cicak (@Empathy_Center) April 26, 2020
You know Peter, many of us want to create the better world you've enlightened us to. Sadly movements need leaders and structure. Just bitching about the status quo, without offering an alternative isn't exactly helpful.#StepUpOrShutUp #TZM— David Zan (@Zancett) April 26, 2020
After a little delay, Zeitgeist: Moving Forward is out now. http://ow.ly/3KIPL— Tim (@Brugman) January 26, 2011
"Friends,
I want to make a comment about a certain angle of critique I have come in contact with and expand this rather trivial issue into a more important cultural point which many out there seem not to get even in this day and age.
During the premiere of Zeitgeist: Moving Forward in LA on Jan 15th, a very kind women politely asked me why there “were not more woman in my film”. I responded to the effect that “well I have to go where the data is.” She, of course, related and I feel her question wasnt as much that she was offended by there not being “more women” in the film, but more to effect that others might feel some sort of bias by the fact. Fair enough, given the culture today.
So, I jump on a plane and go to New York City for the screenings there at Tribeca Cinemas. After the film ended on Jan 17th I was asked a similar question:
“Why arent there more black people in your movie?”
At first, I thought he was joking. In fact, I spent a good couple of minutes making fun of the questiononly to find he was, indeed, not joking. He really felt the need to understand why, in his view, there were not “more black people” in the film. So, of course, I explained that race is an arbitrary factor on all levels and that I simply do not recognize race anymore and the idea of “politically correct media” isnt a notion I care about for it is a contrivance which perpetuates a false need to be superficially “equal” as though I should say to myself: “Hmmm the film is good but I think I need more woman, black people, native americans, middle easterners, jews, amish and handicapped people etc.”
That stated, I want to point out something: Data is data and the people who present it are arbitrary.
I'll state that again:
Data is data and the people who present it are arbitrary.
It doesnt matter who Peter Joseph is what race he is or what his background is – what comes out of his mouth is DATA and each person must compute that data based on the merit of the data itself- not the machine (person) relaying it. The messenger is and will always be irrelevant. Humans are merely vehicles for information relay. They learn they repeat / adjust based on the novel-ness of their life experience/frame of reference/understanding. Those who are biased against data because they dont “like” the prima facie identity of the person or entity communicating the data are engaging in what I call “INTELLECTUAL BIGOTRY”.
For example, Lets assume I do a movie on renewable energy and the featured person in the work who is discussing various mediums of renewables happens to be a Nazi or a Scientologist or a Christian whatever. Does that mean the info they state is now suspect or biased? Is a film which has a Nazi in it suddenly a “Nazi film” regardless of the context?
Sadly, this is how many people comprehend in this culture. They don't want to think so they seek to isolate the persons assumed character (race/background/job/whatever) and attack that rather than listen to what they say. And yes, I know, Im Peter Joseph, the “arrogant” , “satanist”, “communist”, “new world order”, “asshole” “megalomaniac”, “cult leader”, “conspiracy theorist.” but hey – guess what: even if all those labels were true: IT CHANGES NOTHING.
Data is data and if there is anything the public needs to snap out of, its the belligerent bias of the “projected identity” notion that blinds people to actually listening/considering new information.
Now, with respect to the need for more “woman or black people” in my film I want to make a critical point: It is nothing but a racist/sexist disposition to demand that the vehicles of data transfer in a film or whatever are of a certain origin; in a “politically correct” context. Again Data is data. I call this “reverse racism/reverse bigotry”
Frankly, it is nothing but biased and racist for there to be “puerto rican day parades” or “Italian American day” It is nothing but biased and racist for there to be “black awareness month” It is nothing but biased and sexist for the idea of the “feminist” to exist in the arrogance it often does today. Arent we interested in equality? If so- it means that you do not promote your “institution” of gender/race/ideology above others- it means you recognize the historical bias against you and work for it to be “neutralized” not elevated in a vindictive/ego sense.
I remember reading about Martin Luther King Jr.s apprehension to the idea of “Black Power”. He knew. He understood that to try to make your race/sex or the like “outstanding” is equality as biased as the oppressive forces that started the sad trend of inequality we see today.
-Peter JosephIs there a dire need to generate more equality across race, gender and class lines? Yes. But that doesnt mean your race/gender/class happens to be “special”. We are human. Period."
Where is the proof of sexism in this poll though?— Desean (@brandonsaidd) March 17, 2020
Comments
Legal action could be taken so i advise you remove this torrent for now, its best if its all released on the 25th and not prior, its also best if there are not 2 version so to not confuse people.
Peter made the theatrical one smaller, the internet release will be a bit longer.
Also Peter has made sure that no one releases it online prior to the release date, there is a watermark identification for all the dvd's that where sent to each coordinator.
Yes it will be free, but this release was not to be released online and everyone who received the dvd were warned about it and even signed a contract.
As far as how I obtained this copy of the film, as I was walking out of the films premiere I saw a paper jacketed disc laying on the ground with nothing written on it. I picked it up and said wouldn't it be cool if this is a copy of the movie. Got home fired up the old DVD player and all of a sudden I'm watching Moving Forward.
Thought it would be nice to share it with you all.
I understand you may have thought that by pre-releasing the movie unofficially you are doing good to other people that may have not seen it, but I got to tell you that you are actually harming the Zeitgeist Movement. Was it too much to ask to wait 2 days for the Official Torrent release of the movie? If you are reading this, and thepiratebay.se still allows you, please cancel this item and please Seed the one that officially will go out in 2 days. Please.
I also LOL very hard at the idea of legal action being taken.
If this had have been released earlier, then it may have hurt the theatre/cinema releases, but the 22nd rather than the 25th is fine...
Thank you uploader!
A little boring, nothing new. Just the idea to spread the word.
Sincerely, TZM
" Duplication of this educational film is granted and encouraged for non-profit/educational purposes only."
So what copyrights have been violated?